View Full Version : Sofie's turn

01-20-2016, 10:40 PM
So, on Monday while at work I received a message from my daughter that she found Sofie sitting in a corner of our loving room, where she usually doesn't spend any time. She moved slower than usual but nothing more than that. When I got home, she was slower but looked ok. She did turn her dinner down and looked a bit stressed. I checked her out and her tummy appeared to be tight. I pushed everywhere on her back, legs etc, no reaction from her. I had some Metacam saved from a previous dental visit, so I gave her some and she definitely relaxed afterwards. On Tuesday, I was again at work, I got a video from my daughter of Sofie moving. It appeared that she was having some trouble with her left rear leg. Limping as it looked and that she mentioned that she thought she saw her dragging it a bit outside. I called the vet and made an appointment to bring her in the morning. I figured if she moves we could wait until morning. When I got home, she was uncomfortable, moving ok in the house. But when we went outside, she was more unsteady, wobbly in the rear at times. I did not see any dragging. I checked her out again, no reaction at all. Again gave her Metacam. At this point I knew she is most likely starting to develop some back problems.

This morning I took her in. It was not our usual vet as she is out of town. She moved her neck around, pushed on the back and the only reaction we got was that Sofie lowered her rear when pushed on her back. No wincing, no crying, just lowering her rear down. The vet also reviewed her xray from 8 years ago as she was trying to decide if it could be her hips and should another xray be done. She decided against it because course of treatment would be the same. And xray doesn't always show conclusively one way or another. So, Sofie is on activity restriction, prednisone, and pepcid. She did offer Tramadol, but because Sofie didn't seem to be in a lot of pain, she gave me a choice of getting it or calling for it later if Sofie does need it. We also did a double laser treatment today. I am hoping that this would prevent her from going down completely. Laser definitely relaxed her. She immediately wanted to go to sleep afterwards.

She is moving slower than usual tonight, again more pronounced unsteadiness outside on uneven surface. It is about the same as she was yesterday. I started her on prednisone and will take her for another laser on Friday when I am off. So sad.

01-21-2016, 10:11 AM
What can I say except sadly we all know the routine and you are a great Mom. Take care and follow the protocol. Should she start to deteriorate any get her to a specialist.

I just went though something very similar with Stella and also notice a hard long "limp" on her right side", turns out she had a pulled groin muscle and it is the same protocol. Took a while and she did great.

Hugs and Prayers for Sofie.

Alex's Mom
01-21-2016, 11:40 AM
Well, that sucks, Olga! At least you're on top of it and know what to do. What Yo said. Many many :bigrayz::bigrayz::bigrayz: and :hug99::hug99::hug99:. Keep us posted, ok?

01-21-2016, 01:56 PM
I agree. It does suck, but you are doing the right things. Bogart never showed any pain when poked and prodded on his back but after one day, he was very wobbly. The prednisone and crate rest worked for him. He was 15 years old at the time and it took about 10 weeks of crate rest, but he did recover and walked very well (with a very slight hump in his back) and could even run! You know the drill and don't let her talk you into that she's okay once the pred kicks in. Bogart thought he was Wonder Dog and wanted to go run around so had to live in a harness in order to keep him from getting away from me.

Sending tons of :bigrayz::bigrayz::bigrayz: Please keep us posted.

01-21-2016, 03:39 PM
The only thing I would maybe recommend would be a tensor bandage for support while she is outside. Sending Sofie oodles of rayz. :bigrayz: :bigrayz: :bigrayz: :bigrayz: :bigrayz: :bigrayz: :bigrayz:

01-21-2016, 09:30 PM
Well, she did feel like a wonder dog last night, but back to about the same today.

01-21-2016, 10:08 PM
Huge bummer. Tons of :bigrayz::bigrayz::bigrayz:!

01-23-2016, 08:50 PM
JMO---when Gunner went down, we did the adequan series and prednisone for about 2 weeks, before he went completely down...the neuro in Tucson questioned why Gunner was not on a pain med...I told him the Vet did not think he needed it, and he told me---YES he does...so this time with Petunia---we did the adequan, prednisone and I asked for Tramadol to give her for a few days...after a few weeks a Vet that we take her to for therapy, also recommended putting her on another med and we did-for 2 weeks...she is at 5 weeks and doing good....next week will be 6 weeks, and we will just do leash walking for a few more weeks---no sling....we will crate until 8 weeks and go from there...we are still doing acupuncture for her also...

01-23-2016, 11:00 PM
Today she looks perfect. I don't see anything wrong with her. Is that Prednisone or were we wrong about her back?

I set the crate up that we used for Sebastian and she hates it. She is constantly trying to get out, pushing her blanket and pee pad into the water bowl, etc. Sebastian was easy. He was in pain and medicated. With her it is totally different.

01-24-2016, 10:40 AM
I think it's probably the pred that's making her walk fine. Bogart thought he was superdog when he was on pred. I had to keep him in a harness 24/7 so I could hold on to him or he would try to run!

Bogart was relatively easy with the crate rest. Darby was a nightmare. He stays in his crate all day when we go to work but it's totally different when we are at home. He screamed, clawed, dug at the crate door and it went on and on and on. For hours. I finally gave up on the crate rest and just kept him confined and on a leash at all times. I even slept with him next to me and the leash around my upper arm so I'd know if he tried to get off the bed. I was really worried about him jumping down.

Alex's Mom
01-24-2016, 12:04 PM
I know with Heidi (the second time) we started treating for back, but quickly realized that it was actually muscular, and kept her on restricted movement for a few week (off pred) and she was fine. It's so hard to tell without an MRI sometimes!!! But MUCH better safe than sorry. Ferk is supposed to be crated for her back legs, but with only a little bit of life left, I'm not doing it. Bad owner, maybe, but she's not spending her last time in a crate!!!!!!!

01-24-2016, 09:54 PM
I know with Heidi (the second time) we started treating for back, but quickly realized that it was actually muscular, and kept her on restricted movement for a few week (off pred) and she was fine. It's so hard to tell without an MRI sometimes!!! But MUCH better safe than sorry. Ferk is supposed to be crated for her back legs, but with only a little bit of life left, I'm not doing it. Bad owner, maybe, but she's not spending her last time in a crate!!!!!!!

I don't think what you are doing with Ferk is wrong. I don't think you are a bad owner. I think you are doing what is best for her. I look at it as a palliative care. It is not hospice care. But palliative care. Concentrating on quality of life while maintaining comfort, continuing with some treatments while choosing to opt out of others that may affect quality of life but not necessary result in cure in patients with chronic condition in its advanced stages. It is something that physicians should promote more. I work on the unit that specializes in heart failure and I wish more families were open to speaking with palliative care specialists. It is often confused with giving up and hospice care.

01-30-2016, 06:39 PM
Well, Sofie acts like she is 100%. I don't see as pronounced symptoms as she was at the beginning, she still wants to jump off my bed etc. At times I still think she has some stiffness in the rear. But she is so stoic. I have her in the same crate that I used for Sebastian during the day. She hates it. I can't put anything there besides her bed and water bowl. :sosad: She will dump everything else in the water bowl. We are now on reduced dose of prednisone. I chose to be safe and treat it as if it was her back and finish the course. We went for another laser treatment this week and I will get her in again next week. We get to see our usual vet next week for re-check.

01-30-2016, 10:47 PM
insurance rayz :bigrayz::bigrayz::bigrayz:

01-31-2016, 01:22 PM
You are doing everytthing right! More :bigrayz::bigrayz::bigrayz:

02-11-2016, 09:38 AM
Sofie completed her course of prednisone. Dr Lantry viewed the video that Natasha shot of Sofie walking at the beginning of this and is pretty sure something happened to her (fell, hurt her back etc). So, she cleared us for some slow walks, but still restricting her activity at home. Sofie acts like she is fine and I do not see any deficits.

02-11-2016, 10:29 AM
Great news, Olga! :cheer3::cheer3:

02-13-2016, 11:08 AM
That's great!

It is so hard to tell. Angel's second episode, I crated for 10 days and then we were going on vacation... left them with in-laws with meds and a list of what to watch for & do... MIL was good with limiting her to restricted movement and she had no further issues. You just never know with these little guys.